tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post7539953902950327868..comments2024-03-22T02:18:38.555-07:00Comments on Deceptively Quick: Happy Rudy Fernandez DayJack Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04031630038196126143noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-73602270262002461422011-10-09T11:54:02.576-07:002011-10-09T11:54:02.576-07:00Hot - Collection is a honest and confidential Lon...Hot - Collection is a honest and confidential London escort agency which provides genuine London escorts girls for gentlemen of taste.Escorts Londonhttp://www.hot-collection.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-12837706855127038172011-10-04T11:27:07.010-07:002011-10-04T11:27:07.010-07:00Bestescort4U more then ten years providing best Lo...Bestescort4U more then ten years providing best London escorts companionship in the UK.London escortshttp://www.bestescort4u.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-55903160426168433862011-08-21T09:38:27.744-07:002011-08-21T09:38:27.744-07:00Your Escort Agency offers exclusive and most beaut...Your Escort Agency offers exclusive and most beautiful London escort girls of various nationalities.Your Escort Agencyhttp://www.yourescortagency.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-20203521520352613862008-09-29T11:28:00.000-07:002008-09-29T11:28:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.S.Parrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11537478540316117591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-18748148707672534212008-09-26T10:13:00.000-07:002008-09-26T10:13:00.000-07:00Matt, you raise some good points here, but I would...Matt, you raise some good points here, but I would like to point out the fact that the Chinese crowd boo'd the Spanish national team when they took the court. That then says to me that the Chinese fans didnt quite appreciate the gesture. I dont think it was a blatant racist move, I just thought it was culturally insensitive, immature, and completley unnecessary, given the circumstances....Racism due to skin tone, narrow eyes, etc is not just a product of America, but exists throughout the world, even within asian countries. In any event, I dont think DQ is making Rudy out to be racist, but rather somewhat naive, and in for a bit of a culture shock with his move stateside, where, as this post proves, things like this photo are dissected and blown up.<BR/><BR/>Brrrrrrrrrrr!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-21783686896348028102008-09-26T10:09:00.000-07:002008-09-26T10:09:00.000-07:00Nice points. And keep in mind why I raised this is...Nice points. And keep in mind why I raised this issue. Not because I was calling anybody racist or trying to attach blame. I wrote this entry because it seemed unusual to me that there was ZERO discussion of this by local media.<BR/><BR/>Your comments here are more than any Portland-media people delved into the topic. That seems strange. Given our obsession with Rudy, why would they blatantly side step the topic?<BR/><BR/>Maybe its just an indicator of people being uncomfortable broaching the subjects of race and culture. Maybe they just want to feel the good vibes and not deal with any potential unpleasantness.<BR/><BR/>I don't know.<BR/><BR/>But keep in mind, there is definitely a significant Chinese population in Spain. And things have not always been so great for them.<BR/><BR/>Also, very blatant racism is alive and well in Spain. Stuff like that makes them hard to defend when these types of incidents keep arising.<BR/><BR/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/08/spain.sportJack Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04031630038196126143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-63821092944265124842008-09-26T00:33:00.000-07:002008-09-26T00:33:00.000-07:00Not a free pass, but it seemed to me that the Span...Not a free pass, but it seemed to me that the Spanish players really had no notion that what they did was prejudiced, and while in America we think of this as completely insensitive (because of our history of prejudice), it could also mean that the Spanish players are, in this case, completely unprejudiced and see nothing wrong with Asian eyes. (You seem to be coming from a position that there is actually something negative about narrower eyes. All negative connotations about the eyes come from America/Western Imperialists' (and remember that Spain has never been an imperial power in the far east. It was mostly France, England, the Dutch, and America.) history of prejudice i.e. horrible caricatures, white actors taping there eyes and playing asians in 50's movies, etc. If you come from a culture without these examples of prejudice, than those eyes have no negative connotations and are instead just eyes. It would be like an American athlete wearing a blonde wig and clogs to an Olympics held in Sweden. It is not culturally sensitive or correct, but it's not horrible either) So maybe we don't need to demonize the Spanish basketball team but instead inform them that those perfectly beautiful eyes have been made into a symbol of racial hatred by another culture and that to make that gesture is offensive.<BR/>This argument does not come from a belief that Rudy is a good person, but from the belief that Pau Gasol would not knowingly commit public relations suicide right after signing with the most globally recognized basketball franchise in the world.<BR/>However, it is also possible that the Spanish basketball team consists entirely of racist assholes and the gesture means the same thing there as it does here. I just think it is possible that we are being hypocritical by talking a big game about cultural tolerance, while we condemn a group of people without taking the time to look at their culture (BECAUSE PREJUDICE IS A PRODUCT OF CULTURE). <BR/>Peace out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-41481645271102512952008-09-24T16:55:00.000-07:002008-09-24T16:55:00.000-07:00Consider that after the photo hit Team Spain was b...Consider that after the photo hit Team Spain was booed by the Chinese in Beijing. Whatever the intentions behind the photo, that should give you an idea of how it was received. <BR/><BR/>Obviously, the team wasn't trying to offend anyone. But obviously, they did. Because Team Spain doesn't see it as offensive means they get a free pass? Really?Jack Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04031630038196126143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-35867986129115848032008-09-24T14:23:00.000-07:002008-09-24T14:23:00.000-07:00Sorry, horrible last sentence, corrected like this...Sorry, horrible last sentence, corrected like this, "the motivation, meaning and understanding behind the gestures in Spain are entirely different from the motivations, meaning and understanding of those same gestures in America."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-46255487550786759062008-09-24T14:16:00.000-07:002008-09-24T14:16:00.000-07:00It is important to remember that not all countries...It is important to remember that not all countries have the same history of racial prejudice as America. I have not researched Spain's history as far as Chinese immigration, but I think it is safe to assume that Spain has less Chinese/Asian citizens than America and therefore less of a history of prejudice against them. So (and since I have not done the research on Chinese immigration and prejudice in Spain, keep in mind that I can't say this with certitude), is it possible that we are projecting our history of horrible prejudice against the Chinese onto a culture (the Spanish)without that same history, and if this is true, isn't it possible that removed from this history of prejudice, the motivation behind the gestures in the photograph have an entirely different meaning than if they came from American players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-52074999345649549702008-09-23T08:46:00.000-07:002008-09-23T08:46:00.000-07:00Thanks, we'll see if anyone cares. So far, not rea...Thanks, we'll see if anyone cares. So far, not really.Jack Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04031630038196126143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6398105723081422438.post-85988330909238482502008-09-23T00:03:00.000-07:002008-09-23T00:03:00.000-07:00Well put, DQ. But you definitely are not the only ...Well put, DQ. But you definitely are not the only remaining in[sane] Blazer fan. Perhaps the public's desire to deny the truth stems from their even greater desire to find someone to "make things better"?Lien Lehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16619606519585688062noreply@blogger.com